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dandadude:
Hi!

You guys obviously know about proxmox.
What are the advantages (or perhaps disadvantages) of opennode compared to proxmox?

My main question is about running Windows server guests, and my main point is performance and features.

I know that proxmox is debian and opennode is centos, I am thinking of other kind of benchmarks, feature comparisons.
You guys probably made the choice of opennode for some reason upon proxmox.

Thanks,
Dan

activesys:
Before starting OpenNode we looked at Proxmox ofcourse - as they implemented earlier exactly the same idea we wanted to do - merging containers with full virtualization in one solution. But we strongly felt that more "industry standard" components should be used - eg RHEL base OS (for stability, compability and support) and standard libvirt for VM management. Also we try to unify the ways you manage containers and full virtual machines - closing steadily the gap between two different approaches. I dont know any other solution to support both container and KVM VM templates in OVF/OVA format - together with added metadata (template specified deploy time resource requirements, etc). So OpenNode has some unique features and on some areas we still have to catch up - but maybe its sometimes good to wait a bit and have more mature solutions at the end.

I dont think perfomance-wise there will be great difference between OpenNode and Proxmox - we use a bit different OpenVZ kernels but underlying technologies are pretty much the same - Proxmox using bleeding edge and we are more tied to (hopefully more stable) Red Hat approach using backports to a bit older but better known base.

So perfomance wise its more ESX vs KVM battle. I just happen to believe in KVM in long run - as its open and as far as I know also much simpler implementation than VMWare vmkernel or XEN. In OpenNode we believe in simple approaches and solutions - but current cloud/virtualization solutions are still usually anything but simple.

danboid:
First I must say I was a bit freaked out when I came to this forum to see the top two threads asking the exact same questions I had in mind being asked by 'dandadude' as my dad always called me Dan Dude when I was a kid and he still does! :)

If we ignore the difference in the distros (RHEL/Centos vs Debian) what are the 'big pull' features offered by ON 6 that are not present in proxmox 2.1? I have have not tried either yet but I'm hoping that activesys has tried the latest proxmox so that he can give us a pretty good idea on how they stack up feature wise.

I know somebody else on this forum has already highlighted that the roadmap on the main ON site doesn't make it clear which of those features made it into ON6 so it'd be nice to see that clarified.

Does ON6 support automatic snapshots and SPICE desktop already?

Thanks for your help!

Dan Dude 2

danboid:
Activesys:

In your response you said "So OpenNode has some unique features and on some areas we still have to catch up" - I'm just as interested in where proxmox beats ON as the other way round of course so I'd appreciate it if you could expand on this please and does ON 6 use the same kernel version as centos 6.2 - 2.6.32 - but modified or does it use a newer kernel?

As for advantages ON has over PM, you've already mentioned "support both container and KVM VM templates in OVF/OVA format - together with added metadata (template specified deploy time resource requirements, etc)" - anything else?

Thanks!

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